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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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so... what are you guys talking about? im afriad i might ask one of you guys to repeat from the top
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:12 PM
Let me find my three sentence summary of Roger Castillo's framework
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 2/27/2021 11:13 PM
marissa do you keep FAQ document on your desktop yet?
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:13 PM
lol
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 2/27/2021 11:13 PM
i was actually serious
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it might make it easier, however
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i can see that you being more focused when replying to people rather than copy pasting might be part of "forcing" the framework
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:14 PM
Hehe :p Indeed
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What we're really seeking is the end of unhappiness, which is a psychological attitude that manifests as 1. guilt, 2. blame, 3. pride, 4. worry, and 5. expectation. This unhappiness is the result of believing that 1) people could act any differently than they actually do, and that 2) pleasure completes me/makes me happy, whereas pain is an attack on who I am. When these beliefs are recognized to be completely inaccurate, unhappiness dissolves, leaving in its place peace of mind regardless of circumstantial pleasure or pain.
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..... my alter Trelijah defys everythign about that XD
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and he strives to make my life a happy one
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:17 PM
Hey I recognize you now!
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ah the irony
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:17 PM
Been a while
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im afriad i dont rdcognize you, where did we meet before/ did u have a previous name?
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:18 PM
Didn't you use to be on this server about half a year ago? My name's always been this
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I recognize your avatar and the name of your alter
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... no. i joined the server back in december or something
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:18 PM
Hmmmm
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Maybe my sense of time is just a little off
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Has your name always been JSheer?
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... i dont know.... this is actually a new account since my old one went to shit, but my old account was PlanwiththeMan. or Cymon Sheer as i went by on here
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:24 PM
Ah yeah Cymon
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i dont think i recognize you though. so i apologize deeply for that
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:37 PM
Linking here too, as recommended by JSheer ;3
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A practical guide to awakening to the place of deep stillness and no self-referential thoughts. Many different approaches are outlined, including direct observation of the workings of the mind, meditative self-inquiry, negations, affirmations, pranayama/breathing practices, vinyasa/flow yoga asanas, and chanting. Several classical texts are give...
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.... i dont think that works for me
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can you slowly tell me what it is so i can comprehend it?
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:38 PM
Yogic "posture flows", a sequence of movements designed to induce thoughtless states/relaxation (edited)
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....ok so... "awakeness" is simply, having a clear mind?
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Unfastened Belts 2/27/2021 11:41 PM
Pretty much, yes!
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The absence of "I should", "I need", "you shouldn't", etc
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i wish i had that.. but i had bad ADHD
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 2/27/2021 11:53 PM
yoga actually can help with adhd
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hmm.... never worked for me
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What is metaphysics?
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Hmm Even Im interested in what it actually is? I find all sorts of complicated answers on the internet?
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Deleted User 2/28/2021 8:20 AM
this is basically the supernatural containment channel
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oh well
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@Cerys
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A long kiss goodnight 2/28/2021 3:01 PM
What is metaphysics?
Marissa also uses it as a philosophy channel too, embracing the original definition of metaphysics
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@Unfastened Belts@Lula! | 👻 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgcQDHpPVLo
Lula! | 👻 2/28/2021 9:01 PM
I love so much that you've been sending these lately because I didn't have anything like them and I needed these! 💙
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Lula! | 👻
I love so much that you've been sending these lately because I didn't have anything like them and I needed these! 💙
Deleted User 3/1/2021 1:06 PM
i'm glad you like it it's very nice!
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Tulpas if one believes they become real beings would be classified as a metaphysical thing. (edited)
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vͮiͥxͯiͥeͤ | 👻 BOT 3/3/2021 6:35 AM
uhh, what do you mean if they become real beings? Like as having some sort of external body/form? Cause otherwise, they definitely don't need to be metaphysical.
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I mean that some think tulpas have their own soul... that would be actually metaphysical thinking
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vͮiͥxͯiͥeͤ | 👻 BOT 3/3/2021 6:57 AM
well thinking anyone has a soul is metaphysical thinking..
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KiTkAt( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ 🌺 [Kaleido] BOT 3/3/2021 7:56 AM
well thinking anyone has a soul is metaphysical thinking..
@vͮiͥxͯiͥeͤ | 👻 (@Calyra 👻) - jump 👆 this lol
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Deleted User 3/3/2021 8:07 AM
Yeah but not necessarily. If the soul is linked to microtubules as is hypothesised then it would actually be a physical thing (edited)
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Unfastened Belts 3/3/2021 8:11 AM
Ive never heard the word microtubules before, whats that?
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I like the concept that human beings are souls rather than have souls
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Souls = conscious body/mind instruments
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 3/3/2021 5:10 PM
what do you even mean by "soul"
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every time i hear in a video that quantum wave collapses when observed by a consciousness rather than measured, i get so triggered lol (edited)
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
every time i hear in a video that quantum wave collapses when observed by a consciousness rather than measured, i get so triggered lol (edited)
that's a fair point. an unconscious machine can measure something and have the same technical effect as a conscious person measuring it.
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vͮiͥxͯiͥeͤ | 👻 BOT 3/3/2021 5:49 PM
Souls = conscious body/mind instruments
@Unfastened Belts - jump okay but I'm just curious, why use the word soul at this point?
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Unfastened Belts 3/3/2021 5:53 PM
To signify aliveness, I suppose
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I agree that its not really necessary, it just sounds nice!
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vͮiͥxͯiͥeͤ | 👻 BOT 3/3/2021 6:34 PM
Ahhhh, that's cool/valid/totally fine! I was just curious lol
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Interestingly, even Jehovah's Witnesses use the concept that "people are souls rather than have souls"
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Arguing that this is how it's used in the bible
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(Remember, JWs don't believe in people's souls going to heaven after death)
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Marissa BOT 3/4/2021 5:30 AM
Suffering is an energy of uncomfortableness and lack that feels like something is missing (more pleasant circumstance). Paradoxically, this energy of lack is a heavy load added into the experience. When it's absent, it turns out that nothing was ever missing and there is self-contentment in the recognition "I'm alive (and aware)"
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Sense that something is missing, but when it's taken away, it turns out our unhappiness was too much (suffering energy) rather than too little (pleasant circumstance)
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Lula! | 👻 3/4/2021 6:38 AM
Me and the Vix are pretty happy just to live in the moment. She might be even better than me at it, kinda funny, huh? 😂
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Lula! | 👻 3/4/2021 6:54 AM
But, I AM NOT DONE, lol, I have yet to reach my peak. 😄 Sorry, I'm being goofy.
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Unfastened Belts 3/4/2021 7:31 AM
Hehehe
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Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:37 PM
what is metaphysics?
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Unfastened Belts 3/9/2021 6:39 PM
In the context of this server, metaphysics means "supernatural"
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In any other context, it means philosophy
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Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:40 PM
so magic and witchcraft?
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Unfastened Belts 3/9/2021 6:40 PM
Yeh
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Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:40 PM
i never knew
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can you ask for advice on witchcraft here
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Unfastened Belts 3/9/2021 6:40 PM
Totally!
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Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:40 PM
ok help with energy manipulation (edited)
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Unfastened Belts 3/9/2021 6:41 PM
Pinging @Lula! | 👻
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(EDIT: Pinged before "energy manipulation" lol)
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Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:42 PM
do they know about witchcraft?
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Unfastened Belts 3/9/2021 6:44 PM
She's dabbled in it a little
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Heh, maybe I should say "they" too
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Unfastened Belts
Heh, maybe I should say "they" too
Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:46 PM
i don't know the genders of anyone here lol but yeah maybe they could help me, energy manipulation is related to witchcraft so
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Unfastened Belts 3/9/2021 6:47 PM
I don't think Lula would care about energy manipulation lol. Sounds like more of a Vixie thing
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Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:47 PM
ok
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i still need help 😩
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Unfastened Belts 3/9/2021 6:48 PM
Why do you want to manipulate people's energy so bad
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Just leave them be!
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Happiness can only be found inside you
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Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:48 PM
bro what
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oh god please dont get me kicked that's not the context
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i'm talking about energy manipulation in witchcraft
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like my own energy
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Unfastened Belts 3/9/2021 6:49 PM
Ah fair enough lol
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Deleted User 3/9/2021 6:50 PM
nice lol
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